Shocking Analysis: Do coke and Pepsi contain Alcohol?


13
Jun
2014
» 13th June 2014
Shocking Analysis: Do coke and Pepsi contain Alcohol?
Disclaimer: We are providing this information as a sincere attempt to help muslims stay away from haram. We hold no personal hatred against any muslim but we will NEVER tolerate such deceptions perpetrated against muslims time and again as al wala wal bara has defined the clear path for us. And we do hold on to the concept of al hubbu fillah and al bughdhu fillah very dearly.

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(يَا أَيُّهَا الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا إِنْ جَاءَكُمْ فَاسِقٌ بِنَبَإٍ فَتَبَيَّنُوا أَنْ تُصِيبُوا قَوْمًا بِجَهَالَةٍ فَتُصْبِحُوا عَلَىٰ مَا فَعَلْتُمْ نَادِمِينَ) [Surat Al-Hujraat : 6]

O you who believe, if a sinful person brings you a report, verify its correctness, lest you should harm a people out of ignorance, and then become remorseful on what you did.

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We have verified only the ‘false’ claim about the muslim consumer group. We do not deem it necessary to probe into the analysis of the government of UAE and the study conducted by Jang Group of Pakistan for obvious reasons namely halaalization and legalization of prostitution, alcohol, carrion chicken and meat.

(إِنَّ الَّذِينَ يُحِبُّونَ أَنْ تَشِيعَ الْفَاحِشَةُ فِي الَّذِينَ آمَنُوا لَهُمْ عَذَابٌ أَلِيمٌ فِي الدُّنْيَا وَالْآخِرَةِ ۚ وَاللَّهُ يَعْلَمُ وَأَنْتُمْ لَا تَعْلَمُونَ) [Surat An-Noor : 19]

Verily, those who love that filth should be propagated among those who believe, they will have a painful torment in this world and in the Hereafter. And Allah knows and you know not.

Let us now examine the claim put up on the blog here:

http://muftisays.com/blog/Muadh_Khan/3706_12-06-2014/do-coke-and-pepsi-contain-alcohol-what-is-the-fatwa.html

Coke, Pepsi and 7-up testing in USA finds NO Alcohol:

Muslim Consumer Group randomly bought bottles of unopened Coke, Pepsi and 7 UP bottles, sent it to a lab for sophisticated Residual Solvents Identification (USP 35 ) testing and paid $1200. Tests revealed no Alcohol.

Now let us see what the reality of the above claim is. A brief visit to the muslim consumer group website has revealed the astonishing truth.

http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/

The claim mentioned above clearly states some of the details of the testing method and the amount paid for it – “sent it to a lab for sophisticated Residual Solvents Identification (USP 35 ) testing and paid $1200.”

And the result as claimed in the statement above:

“Tests revealed no Alcohol.”

Now let us see the real results (truth) muslim consumer group states. We will copy relevant parts from the mcg website to make it brief. Links will be provided for the sincere readers and we urge everyone to visit them and verify our claim independently.

1) TITLE: MCG’ s analysis of Alcohol in US made soft drinks will be same in other countries if the ingredients statement are same

…… They do not use a single natural flavor but multiple natural flavors. Since most natural flavors are made with ethyl alcohol as a solvent, so amount of alcohol in natural flavors is more than a single natural flavor.

…… This is the reason the lab analysis of Cocoa Cola, Pepsi and 7 UP at a independent lab in Chicago area shows that Coca Cola has more alcohol compare to Pepsi which do not show any alcohol at all.

…… Conclusion:

In conclusion Coca Cola in any part of world will have alcohol in it. It was proved by a independent lab in Chicago area USA and also a lab in France by Le Monde Le Progres reported that 10 out of 19 sodas tested by the magazine contained alcohol, including Coke and Pepsi. The difference in MCG results and La Monde Le Progres of France is due to use of different instrument to detect ethyl alcohol and procedure itself.

…… The independent outside lab in Chicago area has found the following amount of alcohol in Coca Cola and 7 UP but nothing in Pepsi:

The alcohol level in Coke was 0.0059 or 59 PPM

7 UP has shown higher level of alcohol of 0.048% or 480 PPM.

The Pepsi has showed less than 0.001% or less than 10 PPM (Instrument cannot detect less than 0.001% it means zero results.

http://www.muslimconsumergroup.com/alerts.html

2) A simple search on the mcg website of the word “coca cola” yields many results. Some of them are reproduced below.

Q) Is soft drink COCA COLA halal ??? -[Anonymous user]

A) AOA

It is not Halal because it contains minute amount of alcohol.

Category: E-Numbers

05-07-14 05:36:10

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Q) I sent msg to coca cola company asking them about alcohol and their answer was “Coca-Cola: Soft drink products of The Coca-Cola Company are nonalcoholic. The ingredients and manufacturing processes used in the production of our soft drinks are rigorously regulated by government and health authorities. In every country where our products are sold, our soft drinks are recognized by the local government and health authorities as nonalcoholic. ” so it doesn’t contain alcohol!! -[Anonymous user]

A) AOA

They are saying this since last 30 years and I also got the same reply 20 years back. Please send this report to them and ask about.

From our website Alert section:

Alcohol was detected in Coke and 7 UP

Muslim Consumer Group was getting a lot of inquiries about the French study of finding the presence of alcohol in EuropeanCoke and Pepsi. MCG sent the samples to Northland Lab in Northfield, IL to use a more sophisticated method of Residual Solvents Identification known as USP 35 method than French’s Headspace Gas Chromatography-Flame Ionization Detection (HS-GC-FID) method which cannot quantify the amount of Ethanol or Ethyl Alcohol.

MCG sent unopened Coke, Pepsi and 7 UP bottles to Northland lab to perform alcohol test by using Residual Solvents Identification known as USP 35 method. This method can detect amount of alcohol at least 0.001% or 10 Part Per Million or 10 milligram per liter or more. But this method can’t detect less than 0.001% of alcohol.

MCG has paid over $1200 to perform these analysis for Muslim consumers in USA.

The alcohol level in Coke was 0.0059 or 59 PPM as reported by Northland Lab.

The 7 UP has shown higher level of alcohol of 0.048% or 480 PPM.

[Our husn e dhann fails us to comprehend how a person can know the test method and the amount paid but couldn’t know the result and make such a clear distortion.]

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Q) Hi ! Dear brother I would like too know about coca cola and Pepsi ingredient is halal please can you reply me : Thanks Jazakumullah Khair? -[Anonymous user]

A) AOA

MCG sent coke, pepsi and 7 up to outside lab for alcohol analysis. The lab detected alcohol in coke and 7 UP but not in Pepsi so can use only Pepsi.

Category: E-Numbers

02-14-14 16:59:01

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Q) Please could you tell me the specific amount of alcohol in DR PEPPER not in coca cola dr pepper -[Anonymous user]

A) AOA

The amount of alcohol in Coca Cola is listed under Alert section. Dr. Pepper wrote me that all their flavor made with alcohol. So it does not matter how much there because a Hadith says even small amount intoxicant is Haram. Alcohol is a intoxicant.

Category: Food Products

11-24-12 09:53:4

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The below was stated in the comments of the blog. Let us see what mcg says about this claim in response to a similar question.

 Actually Coke denies it as well (http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/faq/ingredients/does-coca-cola-contain-alcohol.html ) *** Coca Cola is proud to be the world’s largest non-alcoholic beverage company. In the manufacture of Coca Cola, alcohol is not added as an ingredient and no fermentation takes place.*** Remember that I haven’t presented this as evidence and I am merely correcting your misinformation.”

MCG: They are saying for last 30 years that their soft drinks do not consider a alcoholic drink because in order to say alcoholic drink the USFDA requires a minimum percent of alcohol. Coke and Pepsi will never answered question about use of alcohol in natural flavors because if they answered yes then their products in Muslim countries will be banned. Dr. Pepper who also make 7UP send me an e-mail that mostly alcohol is used their flavors. This is the reasons we send coke, Pepsi and 7Up to outside lab to analyzed. This lab analysis is based on official AOAC procedure which is different used in France. The instrument was also different in both countries. This is the reason lab in France find alcohol in Pepsi but not in USA.

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Sincere readers can visit the website themselves to verify the above.

www.muslimconsumergroup.com

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Now some interesting comments from the blogger.

“But such a rigours, repeatable, authentic approach will be boring and it’s a lot more fun to send people…..

“And then people can approach Ulama for Fatawaa and then believers get into battle mode and fight it out for “Haqq vs Baatil”.”

SINCERE READERS ARE REQUESTED TO DECIDE FOR THEMSELVES IF THIS IS INDEED A FIGHT OF “HAQQ VS BAATIL” OR NOT.

Our question is why was the result of mcg’s research stated incorrectly?

Addendum
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The issue of whether small amounts of alcohol contained in a food item render it Haraam or not is a separate one. We shall focus for now on the question on whether Coke, Pepsi and other fizzy drinks contain alcohol.

THE HIDDEN UNDECLARED 1-2% – FILTH OR PERFECTLY HALAAL AND TAYYIB?

FDA will allow up to 2% of processing aid ingredients or hidden ingredients in a food product or in a food ingredient without reporting in the ingredients statement.

A good example of a hidden ingredient used by some Kuffaar manufacturers is the use of pork gelatine in apple juice processing!

The research of MCG and their many correspondences with major Kuffaar companies, prove that a shocking number of Kuffaar products have traces of pork or alcohol in them – and that’s judging from only those companies who have admitted, perhaps naively, to this fact! Most other companies will not reveal, and are not obliged to, any of the hidden ingredients used in manufacturing their products.

The Kuffaar have a tendency to use Naajis, filthy ingredients in their products and they have a whopping 2% to play with without having to reveal any of the filth that they may have introduced into a product.

DOES THE HIDDEN UNDECLARED 1-2% INGREDIENT CONTAIN ALCOHOL????

It is commonly known and accepted by food processing experts that alcohol is used as a processing aid or a hidden ingredient as part of the natural or artificial flavouring. It is not supposed to listed under ingredients. We shall produce clear explicit statements of major companies admitting to this fact.

We shall also produce some letters in which Coca cola and other major companies have clearly admitted that alcohol is used as a flavouring solvent in their product.

In recent years they seemed to have learnt from their mistake of being so honest and now carefully word any letters or statements. For example, read this official statement of theirs:

“Some products of The Coca-Cola Company they contain alcohol?
All drinks are non-alcoholic . Ingredients and industrial processes used in the manufacture of our products are subject to strict controls by the government and health authorities in each country where our products are marketed. Our drinks are recognized as non-alcoholic beverages by the government authorities of each country.”

Coca-Cola does not answer any questions and plays with words. Coca-Cola said its drinks are “recognized as non-alcoholic beverages”, but this does not mean that there is no alcohol in their drinks. This means that their alcohol beverages rate is less than 1.2% by volume, a rate that allows them, according to regulations, not be classified as alcoholic beverages. Clearly, according to the legislation, a drink that contains no more than 1.2% alcohol is not an alcoholic beverage. It is an alcoholic beverage in reality, but not in the texts.

It does not clarify at all whether any of their ingredients or processing aid ingredients in their products contain no alcohol. Attempts by MCG and other Halaal food agencies in gaining clarification regarding this have invariably drawn a blank.

In order to get the correct answer from these major ruthless corporations who are masters of deception, MCG provide guidelines in how to word a letter addressed to these companies.

They state that the question about alcohol in flavors is a tricky one because it is treated as a hidden ingredient of the flavor. If you ask the alcohol question to non-technical consumer department person of a food company, they will first look at the ingredients list of the food product. After obviously finding that find no alcohol is mentioned they will simply state that no alcohol is used whilst completely oblivious to or trained to ignore the fact that alcohol is part of the 2% hidden ingredients of the flavor.

The MCG advises the following or similar wording to be used by muslim consumers when asking the question to the consumer department of any food company regarding the presence or absence of alcohol in the flavor of a food product:

EXAMPLE QUESTION EVERY MUSLIM IS REQUESTED TO ASK:

“Is alcohol used as a solvent in the flavour? Is alcohol a hidden ingredient or processing aid ingredient of a flavour? Such information will not appear in the ingredients statement. The knowledge of the presence or absence of alcohol in flavors is only known to your QA or Technical service department who have access to the specification of flavors. In the specification of the flavors, the flavor supplier would have written the name of the solvent or carrier used in that particular flavor. Please request your QA or Technical service department to find out whether alcohol was used or not in the flavor as a solvent. The consumer department cannot answer this question because would not have access to the specification of ingredients.”

ANY ANSWERS GIVEN TO THE QUESTION ABOVE?

MCG states:

“Both Coca-Cola and Pepsi refused to answer the question of whether alcohol is used in natural flavors because of proprietary information.”

GMWA from UK states:

“Halaal according to information provided, however please note that Coca Cola has not responded to our question about alcoholic flavourings. Britvic, Rubicon and Libby’s drinks have clearly declared alcoholic flavourings.

If you wish to refrain from alcoholic flavourings, then we advise you that Coca Cola Company products may not be suitable for your consumption.”

The following are answers by Coca Cola and Pepsi. Notice how they evade giving the answer that was sought:

“Thank you for contacting The Coca-Cola Company. We appreciate the opportunity to respond to your concerns.

The ingredients and manufacturing process used in the production of our soft drinks are rigorously regulated by government and health authorities in nearly 200 countries that have consistently recognized these beverages as nonalcoholic. Therefore, consumers can be reassured that our products are nonalcoholic. As an aside, you may be interested to know that alcohol naturally occurs in many food products. A scientific literature review has shown that the majority of food and drink products, both natural and manufactured, may contain small amounts of alcohol. Such products include fruits, juices, vegetables, breads, cheese, fish, poultry, beef and even honey.

With regard to halal, we abide by the laws and practices of every country in which our products are sold. In countries where Islam is the principal religion, our soft drink products are accepted by the local governments as suitable for consumption, even where we are not certified as Halal. Our soft drink products are non-intoxicating and officially recognized and registered as nonalcoholic beverages. Moreover, they do not contain any meat ingredients.

We are not able to disclose or comment on the flavor composition of Coca-Cola brand products; this information is proprietary to The Coca-Cola Company. This is all the information we can provide. We suggest contacting your local countries food regulatory agency for further information or contacting the FDA for U.S. beverages.

We hope this information is helpful.

Sincerely,

Johnetta
Industry & Consumer Affairs
The Coca-Cola Company”

From Pepsi Cola:

“Dear Rasheed,

Thank you for taking the time to contact us at Pepsi-Cola regarding our beverages.

Although our exact formulations are proprietary, please be assured that analysis of our products will confirm that they are non-alcoholic. You can be certain that all our products throughout the world are non-alcoholic and fully comply with local regulations.

Also, there are no animal products or bi-products in our carbonated beverages or our juice drinks.

Once again, many thanks for your interest in our company. We hope this information is helpful to you.

Allison Detillier
Consumer Relations Representative”


STATEMENTS WHICH CONFIRM THAT ALCOHOL IS USED IN SUCH PRODUCTS

Here are some statements from far bigger experts than Muadh admitting to the fact that many such products contain alcohol:

GMWA of UK states:

“Most food products nowadays contain some type of flavouring – natural, artificial, or a combination of both.   Many of these flavourings contain alcohol, which is used as a carrier or solvent for the flavouring.”

The Fiqh Council of North America:

“It is well known that some soft drinks, such as Coca-Cola, Pepsi-Cola, contain among their ingredients a tiny amount of alcohol, which is used to dissolve some constituents of the drinks such as color, flavor, etc. Coca-Cola and Pepsi-Cola, for example, contain different types of flavors, considered to be part of the trade secrets; these flavors dissolve in alcohol, which is no more than two to three parts in one thousand (0.03-0.02 %) in these drinks.

Such soft drinks are considered to be permissible or halal from the Islamic point of view, according to the rules of eating and drinking in the Islamic legal law.”

Here are a few excerpts from letters from major companies found on the MCG website admitting to the fact that alcohol is used and that it is a widespread practice in the industry (many of these letters also argue how small the amount of alcohol content is):

DR. PEPPER SNAPPLE GROUP

Dr. Pepper Snapple Group  make 7 UP, Dr. Pepper, A & W, Canada Dry, Clamato, Country Time, Crush, Diet Rite:

[I]“…Most of the flavors in our products are designed with a carrier that is usually ethanol. The amounts are very slight, but still present”.

AG BARR (Rubicon)

“…Flavourings are added to many thousands of food and drink products right across the UK food Industry because they are an essential component in delivering and maintaining the individual products unique, characteristic taste profile preferred by their consumers.  These trace levels are so miniscule that they have no effect on the smell, colour or taste of the product and so bears no trace of its original nature. The body metabolises the alcohol faster than it is consumed, meaning it can have no possible intoxicating effect.”

NESTLE:

“Many natural and/or artificial flavors do contain some alcohol as flavor carriers…

It can be surmised that if a product contains natural and/or artificial flavor, there is a good chance that alcohol was used in the development of the product…”

In another letter:

“…The information we’ve received from our ingredient supplier indicates that although the carrageenan is halal certified, alcohol is used in its manufacture…”

COCA-COLA’S LET SLIP THEIR TROUSERS NOW AND THEN

A letter to Kanz on Wednesday, July 11, 2007 by Coca-Cola themselves:

“It is with pleasure that we confirm that the soft drinks can contain minute traces of alcohol from flavorings used(medium flavor). Indeed, the amount of alcohol in our drinks is always very low and in any case always less than 1.2 percent alcohol ( 1.2% by volume ), regulatory threshold for drinks. “

(Read the letter scanned the bottom of this article)”

A scanned copy of the letter can be found here:

http://www.al-kanz.org/2007/07/14/halal-coca/

Another explicit admission from Coca-cola here:

http://books.themajlis.net/images/B.gif

Two more letters from other companies:

http://books.themajlis.net/images/AnnexureC.gif

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