Murder taught in the bible- should Parents kill their children


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Should parents follow Bible to kill their children who curse?
I’m trying to find logic to believe in the Bible. But I just can’t. It teachings go beyond our moral and logic. The punishment is so horrible!
According to the Bible, any child who curse their parents MUST put to death. No, this doesn’t say limited to Jews or any timeline.
Death for Hitting Dad
Whoever strikes his father or mother shall be put to death. (Exodus 21:15 NAB)
Death for Cursing Parents
1) If one curses his father or mother, his lamp will go out at the coming of darkness. (Proverbs 20:20 NAB)
2) All who curse their father or mother must be put to death. They are guilty of a capital offense. (Leviticus 20:9 NLT)
Should a Christian kill their children (or let someone else give lethal injection)?
I choose no, although I might ground them.
Update 1: Dreamstuff: “This is the old testament, it doesn’t apply.”
What? Are you dismissing OT? Then why is it in the Bible? Why Jesus said to follow the OT, how dare you said otherwise!
This is the old testament, it doesn’t apply. Read the Bible okay!
Matthew 5:17
“Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.”
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Bob answered 5 years ago
I LOVE IT WHEN people read this and say, oh no, this is Old Test, and doesn’t apply. YET, the very same hypocrites will quote scripture from the same chapter that condemns anything that may not apply to them. They cherry pick the bible to bash gays for example, and ignore anything that they don’t agree with. So frustrating. I share your confusion, good question : )
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Great answer Bob!
The rest who try to justify the Bible are cheating themselves. Not only the teaching is horribly wrong and immoral, it contradicts with itself.
Those who defend Bible don’t have to do it. You will never will because Bible you have today is clearly man-made. Go find other belief!
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yohanestoro answered 5 years ago
Bible should be read in unity of the whole God’s message that is final in Jesus Christ…where God revealed Himself…
In Jesus we come to know who God is…how good and loving He is…
And you need the Holy Spirit guidance to understand the message, you cannot apply only the same approach as you study ordinary books…
“You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free” (John 8:31)
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JP (Jan) answered 5 years ago
We are to abide by the New Testament covenant
Gal 3:23-25 says
“Before this faith came, we were held prisoners by the law, locked up until faith should be revealed. So the law was put in charge to lead us to Christ that we might be justified by faith. Now that faith has come, we are no longer under the supervision of the law.
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Vassal of Ages answered 5 years ago
… and people wonder where Stephen King gets his ideas from…
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Ram answered 5 years ago
Its better to follow an amalgametion of old and modern. I dont mean old and new testament. I mean follow the religion only for the good aspects and leave out the bad.
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Martin S answered 5 years ago
Those laws were given to the Israelites who were under a theocratic form of government. Also they were given as part of a “covenant” or agreement that God had made with them whereby if they kept all of His laws it would be counted as righteousness for them.
The Lord Jesus came and established a new agreement where people are considered righteous or “not guilty” before God by faith in Jesus having paid their sin penalty when He laid down His sinless life on a cross in their place.
Christians are still called to adhere to God’s moral laws as the Apostle Paul explains.
Romans 13:7 Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor. 8 Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law. 9 The commandments, “Do not commit adultery,” “Do not murder,” “Do not steal,” “Do not covet,” and whatever other commandment there may be, are summed up in this one rule: “Love your neighbor as yourself.” 10 Love does no harm to its neighbor. Therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.
But Christians live in different countries and are not under a Jewish theocracy. Christians are called to obey the laws of the lands where they live and while it is still a sin for a child to dishonor their parents, the earthly penalties for such behavior are now determined by the human authorities although the eternal penalty for unrepentant sinners still remains eternal separation from God and His love.
1 Peter 2:11 Dear friends, I urge you, as aliens and strangers in the world, to abstain from sinful desires, which war against your soul. 12 Live such good lives among the pagans that, though they accuse you of doing wrong, they may see your good deeds and glorify God on the day he visits us.
13 Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every authority instituted among men: whether to the king, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.
15 For it is God’s will that by doing good you should silence the ignorant talk of foolish men. 16 Live as free men, but do not use your freedom as a cover-up for evil; live as servants of God. 17 Show proper respect to everyone: Love the brotherhood of believers, fear God, honor the king.
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ChrisChristine answered 5 years ago
You need to understand how to read the Bible. Who wrote the scripture, who were they speaking to and when?
The scripture about killing your children wasn’t talking about small children but grown adults, men. Everything in their city depended on community. Getting food and things they needed to survive. If your grown male children were violent, disruptive and low lifes, you were ostracized and many would not do business with you. No food, no one buying what you had to sell, etc. You were looked down on and avoided by everyone in the community. You would starve.
God isn’t telling us today to kill our young but I think he is fine with grounding them. Funny line.
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Ron answered 4 months ago
i love it when ppl cherry pick the message of the NEW COVENANT to say others are cherry picking. and cursing didnt mean to cuss.
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Bill Bowser answered 5 years ago
There is this thing called “progressive revelation.” It means that the Bible isn’t morally all of one piece: Things that in the earlier pages of the Bible were thought to be morally acceptable–such as having more than one wife, as Jacob/Israel did–are later rejected.
You might also want to check out what the Talmud–a series of Bible commentaries by Jewish scholars–says about those passages: How did Jewish scholars of AD/CE 200 view stoning children? How does Judaism view those same Bible passages today, 1800 years later? And are all Jews today in agreement on this?
And if not, then why should Christians be expected to think any differently about the very same Bible passages? Your argument is attacking a straw man.
“A pagan appeared before Shammai and said, ‘I will convert to Judaism provided that you teach me the entire Torah while I stand on one foot.’ Shammai pushed him out with a builder’s cubit-measure that was in his hand. [Then] He [the pagan] went to Hillel who converted him, saying, ‘What is hateful to you, do not to your neighbor: that is the whole law; the rest is commentary. Go, study.’”
“Therefore, however you want people to treat you, so treat them, for this is the Law and the Prophets” (Matt. 7:12).
The words of Jesus frequently reflect the words of Rabbi Hillel, who always tried to find the meaning for the Law and the ethical spirit that under-girded the law.
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JERRY answered 5 years ago
If your studying the bible it is good to study with people who have more knowledge and study it together …God is the teacher and we are the students….our minds have the capacity and potential to live on forever ….When i first looked at all of that i thought the same thing but it’s like hypothetical and comparisons …just making examples if you were to follow that road to destruction …again God is the teacher and he knows what is best for us…too bad some people don’t come to terms with it.
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Vivien answered 5 years ago
Figuratively I think the real message here is that you must punish your kids if they swear at you. I agree in your case that you should ground them but please don’t kill them. I don’t think God would want that. o.o”
Please don’t kill your children just ’cause they swear at you. All you will get is a lifetime in jail. 🙂 I choose no.
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Boosh answered 5 years ago
Hell no don’t kill the kids who cuss GDI
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Seamus Anus answered 5 years ago
erm… thou shall not kill?
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ChanceEncounter answered 5 years ago
Sounds good to me, just as long as the parents abide by other passages restricting their own behaviour. It should be an all or nothing deal. None of this picking and choosing as though the Bible were a Chinese take-out menu, only taking what you like and leaving the rest.
BTW for that one responder, gays who wish to call themselves Christians will do the same thing, picking what they like from the Bible and discarding what they don’t like. So it isn’t as though they are guilt free here in that regard.
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Fmbalina answered 5 years ago
I say no.
Children have not fully grown up or matured, and it is wrong to hold them to full responsibility for something that is natural.
All children will have tantrums and hit their parents. Of course they have to be told off, but following that rule conflicts with the commandment “Thou Shall Not Kill”.
No.
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MastersCommand answered 5 years ago
Only if you want to go to prison.
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Jeanmarie answered 5 years ago
WE christians are NOT under that laws of Moses=old test which you quoted.
We are under Grace=new test that teaches, ” love your neighbors as yourself’ ” Do good to those who hate you” etc.
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Buddha answered 5 years ago
yeah, the bible is a great book to have the little ones ready on a dark stormy night.
NOT.
I do not allow my children to read it alone, unsupervised.
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Anarch answered 5 years ago
The bible has appalling morals… I’m glad Christians don’t follow it to the letter.
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HUMANIST answered 5 years ago
YES THERE WILL BE LESS CHRISTIANS THEN
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Dreamstuff Entity answered 5 years ago
This is the old testament, it doesn’t apply.
Let’s check the NT:
Jesus criticizes the Jews for not killing their disobedient children according to Old Testament law. Mark.7:9-13 “Whoever curses father or mother shall die” (Mark 7:10 NAB)
Jesus is criticized by the Pharisees for not washing his hands before eating. He defends himself by attacking them for not killing disobedient children according to the commandment: “He that curseth father or mother, let him die the death.” (Matthew 15:4-7)
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